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Acer Swift Edge SFE16-43

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Acer Swift Edge SFE16-43
Acer Swift Edge SFE16-43 (Swift Edge SFE16 Serie)
Processore
AMD Ryzen 7 7840U 8 x 3.3 - 5.1 GHz, Phoenix-U (Zen 4)
Scheda grafica
Memoria
16 GB 
, DDR5
Schermo
16.00 pollici 16:10, 3200 x 2000 pixel 236 PPI, IPS, lucido: si, 120 Hz
Harddisk
PCIe NVMe
Porte di connessione
2 USB 3.0 / 3.1, 1 HDMI, Connessioni Audio: 3.5mm
Rete
802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/ax (a/b/g/n = Wi-Fi 4/ac = Wi-Fi 5/ax = Wi-Fi 6/), Bluetooth 5.
Dimensioni
altezza x larghezza x profondità (in mm): 12.95 x 357.6 x 245.9
Sistema Operativo
Microsoft Windows 11 Home
Altre caratteristiche
Casse: Stereo, Tastiera: Chiclet, Illuminazione Tastiera: si
Peso
1.25 kg

 

Price comparison

Punteggio medio: 79.84% - bene
Media dei 19 punteggi (dalle 28 recensioni)
prezzo: 78%, prestazioni: 84%, caratteristiche: - %, schermo: 90% mobilità: 80%, qualità di lavorazione: 90%, ergonomia: 60%, emissioni: - %

recensioni per Acer Swift Edge SFE16-43

Acer Swift Edge 16, il notebook leggero e potente con AMD Ryzen 7 7840U
Sorgente: Quotidiano Hardware Upgrade Italiano
Swift Edge 16 è senza dubbio un bel portatile per lavorare in mobilità: schermo OLED più che soddisfacente, un chip potente e non troppo esigente, unito a un SSD veloce fanno sì che l'esperienza di lavoro sia sempre adeguata e reattiva. L'ampia area e risoluzione dello schermo sono indubbiamente buone qualità, a cui si aggiunge la leggerezza che permette di portare il portatile di Acer sempre con sé senza fatica. Decisamente buono l'assortimento di porte e discreta l'autonomia, su cui forse si poteva fare di più. Il prezzo intorno ai 1500€ non è poco certo, ma nemmeno tanto per quanto offerto: Acer e AMD hanno confezionato un buon notebook per lavorare e svagarsi, anche se chiaramente come tutti i Thin&Light richiede compromessi, soprattutto sul gaming.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lunghissimo, Data: 11/06/2023

recensioni esterne

82% Acer Swift Edge 16 (SFE16-43) Review – Ryzen Ai Enters The Chat
Sorgente: Pokde Inglese EN→IT
So, while this is the review of the Acer Swift Edge 16, let’s take a second and look at AMD’s attempt at introducing AI to the laptop market. While AI is going to be big, and companies are placing big bets on them, let’s take a step back and see what AI can actually provide to a laptop user today. For now, it looks like AI is only required for webcams, and while other apps – such as Photos and Paint – introduces AI features, the crucial difference lies on the fact that those are computed on the cloud, not on the device. Would that change? Yes, it would. In fact, we already have it: just look at smartphones. One fact worth pointing out amongst the 2023’s AI craze is that, AI-assisted features already existed in some ways when you take a photo or remove an element from an image – the compute component responsible for this is collectively called Neural Processing Units, or NPUs.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lunghissimo, Data: 12/04/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 82% prezzo: 82% prestazioni: 78% mobilità: 90% qualità di lavorazione: 82%
80% Acer Swift Edge 16 OLED review (2023 SFE16-43 model, AMD Ryzen 7 7840U)
Sorgente: Ultrabook Review Inglese EN→IT
This Acer Swift Edge 16 is an interesting series, a lightweight and highly-portable laptop with a beautiful 16-inch OLED screen and solid performance for daily chores and multitasking, but also for some occasional workloads and even games. The AMD Ryzen hardware and the OLED display are the main selling points of this series in its niche of large-screen ultrabooks, yet too bad Acer haven't updated the battery or the speakers on this latest generation.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lungo, Data: 11/26/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 80%
Acer Swift Edge 16 Notebook Review – Is AMD Ryzen 7 7840U with Radeon 780M any good?
Sorgente: The Tech Revolutionist Inglese EN→IT
The Acer Swift Edge 16 is a well-designed notebook. Equipped with the latest and greatest components from AMD for thin and light PCs, it balances well between portability, design, performance and usability. We appreciate that AMD has also included new and interesting features such as an AI engine within the new Ryzen 7840U processor, which prepares the notebook for applications of the near future. However, due to the limited number of applications which can be accelerated by such an engine at this time, it didn’t really make a difference. Moreover, compared to its predecessor, we don’t really see a significant difference in terms of real-world raw performance compared to its predecessor. What puzzled us was its graphics performance. Perhaps, the Acer Swift Edge 16 is a product that’s ahead of its time.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Medio, Data: 11/20/2023
The Acer Swift Edge 16 Under-Delivers For Its Price
Sorgente: USA Today Inglese EN→IT
This laptop’s weak performance and uncomfortable user experience don’t deserve a $1,299 sticker price. If you can find the Acer Swift Edge 16 at a significant discount—say, during Black Friday—it might be worthwhile, but only if you think you won’t use it for any resource-intensive tasks. The Swift Edge 16’s large OLED display is certainly appealing, but there’s a similar 16-inch OLED in the Acer Swift Go 16, which retails for $100 less. The Go 16’s performance impressed us far more than the Edge 16, and while the Go 16 is nearly a pound heavier, we’d happily make that trade if it meant being able to use more complex applications. (Avoiding mid-work crashes is also worth the extra weight.) Apple’s 15-inch MacBook Air M2, which offers a lovely visual experience as well as a luxurious keyboard-trackpad combo, is also a great alternative if you’re looking to stay within $1,300.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lungo, Data: 11/16/2023
Acer Swift Edge 16 (2023) review: One of the thinnest and lightest 16-inch laptops you can buy
Sorgente: Pocket Lint Inglese EN→IT
The Swift Edge 16 is something of a mixed bag. Its lightweight, streamlined design is very impressive, and the large, bright display is a treat for the eyes. However, the build quality and battery life both leave room for improvement and may deter some users. The competitive price here might clinch the deal, though, and if you do need a laptop with a large 16-inch display that's light enough to carry around every day then the Swift Edge 16 doesn't have much competition in this price range.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Medio, Data: 11/07/2023
80% Acer Swift Edge 16 Review
Sorgente: Trusted Reviews Inglese EN→IT
It isn’t a crowded section of the best laptop market but the Acer Swift Edge 16 absolutely leads the way in the 16-inch lightweight laptop stakes. It’s got a stunning 3.2K OLED display that looks great no matter what you throw at it. Then, it’s backed up by some impressive performance courtesy of the AMD Ryzen 7 7840U chip. Productivity is dominated by this chip, while it also offers creatives plenty of juice for some 4K editing. It primarily falls down on high-end design and speaker quality, making rivals like the Dell XPS 13 Plus, MacBook Air 15-inch and Samsung Galaxy Book 3 360 easy to recommend in its stead, as they excel in these areas. However, save for the MacBook Air, many Windows competitors can’t match up in terms of the bang for your buck you get with the Swift Edge 16. And, you’ll also be giving up the larger display and refreshingly lightweight. The Acer Swift Edge 16 may not be for everyone but, for the right person, it will knock it out of the park.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lungo, Data: 10/27/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 80%
90% Acer Swift Edge 16 (2023) review
Sorgente: Tech Advisor Inglese EN→IT
AMD shows us where it’s at with a power-efficient Zen 4-based Ryzen CPU that’s capable of doing most things and is quiet and cool between runs. It’s a slim and surprisingly light laptop and there’s quality in most things, except the speakers, but considering the price, it’s hard to complain.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lungo, Data: 10/26/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 90%
80% Acer Swift Edge 16 (Late 2023) Review
Sorgente: PC Mag Inglese EN→IT
Designing a big-screened laptop that's extremely thin and light is a challenge, but Acer has mastered it with the latest Swift Edge 16. Its magnesium-aluminum construction keeps it strong while keeping it under three pounds. To be sure, almost any 14-inch laptop will be more portable due to its smaller size, but the appeal of a larger display without extra weight or thickness is undeniable. As mentioned, the 15.6-inch LG Gram SuperSlim outlasts this Acer's battery life, but the Swift Edge 16 is by no means useless away from home and counters with a better screen, a lower price, and even a free carrying sleeve. For big-screen portability, the Swift Edge 16 is hard to beat.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lungo, Data: 10/25/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 80%
84% Acer Swift Edge 16 Review: Fantastic display and performance marred by poor battery life
Sorgente: Think Digit Inglese EN→IT
With all that out of the way, the Acer Swift Edge 16 is an easy recommendation for anyone looking for a fast, productivity laptop with a beautiful 16-inch OLED display. It’s thin, light, and powerful, with the only drawback being its poor battery life. While we don’t have an India pricing for this laptop since it unfortunately isn’t available here, a direct conversion suggests that this laptop would also be a great value for money purchase were it to ever sell here. The Acer Swift Edge 16 is a thin and lightweight premium laptop offering from Acer which features the new and elusive AMD Ryzen 7 7840U processor, part of AMD’s mythical Phoenix lineup of CPUs. The AMD Ryzen Phoenix chips, part of the Ryzen 7040 series, represent AMD’s latest line of HS-class CPUs designed for ultrathin laptops. These processors, built on a 4nm process and based on the Zen 4 architecture, stand out with their inclusion of a dedicated AI engine called “Ryzen AI.”
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Medio, Data: 10/18/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 84% prezzo: 73% prestazioni: 82% qualità di lavorazione: 96%
80% Acer Swift Edge 16 review: A super-thin laptop that’s light on your wallet
Sorgente: PC World Inglese EN→IT
The Acer Swift Edge 16 is a solid super thin-and-light that pairs a large, gorgeous 16-inch display with portable design that rivals the weight of LG’s superlight Gram 16. Remarkably, Acer achieves this at a lower price point without sacrificing performance. Boring design and disappointing battery life hold the laptop back from stardom, but its rivals frequently suffer in these areas, too. That makes the Swift Edge 16 an alluring value pick.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lungo, Data: 10/18/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 80%
Acer Swift Edge 16 - Thinner, Smarter & Ryzen AI!
Sorgente: Matthew Moniz Inglese
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lungo, Data: 10/13/2023
How to open Acer Swift Edge (SFE16-43) - disassembly and upgrade options
Sorgente: Laptop Media Inglese
Supporto, disponibile online, Corto, Data: 09/26/2023
Acer Swift Edge (SFE16-43) review – has a lot of potential but the cooling solution needs a revamp
Sorgente: Laptop Media Inglese EN→IT
On paper, the Acer Swift Edge (SFE16-43) looks like a great device. In reality, that’s more or less true but the machine has its flaws. The magnesium build feels good to the touch but the lid isn’t the most stable one out there. The base rigidness is okay but again, we’ve seen better.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lunghissimo, Data: 09/26/2023
80% Acer Swift Edge 16 review: a big display without the bulk
Sorgente: Digital Trends Inglese EN→IT
If you’re looking for a fast productivity laptop with a beautiful display, the Swift Edge 16 is a solid choice. It’s incredibly thin and light — not quite as thin as the MacBook Air 15, but much thinner than most 16-inch machines. It’s not perfect, though. Its graphics performance isn’t great, and its battery life is poor. Balanced against that is an attractive list price and an incredible sale price. The Swift Edge 16 is recommended for anyone who wants a larger display, but not a larger laptop.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Medio, Data: 09/08/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 80%
80% Acer Swift Edge 16 review: a big display without the bulk
Sorgente: Digital Trends Inglese EN→IT
If you’re looking for a fast productivity laptop with a beautiful display, the Swift Edge 16 is a solid choice. It’s incredibly thin and light — not quite as thin as the MacBook Air 15, but much thinner than most 16-inch machines. It’s not perfect, though. Its graphics performance isn’t great, and its battery life is poor. Balanced against that is an attractive list price and an incredible sale price. The Swift Edge 16 is recommended for anyone who wants a larger display, but not a larger laptop.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lungo, Data: 09/08/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 80%
80% Acer Swift Edge 16 (2023) review: thin, light, large
Sorgente: Techradar Inglese EN→IT
The Acer Swift Edge 16 (2023) does two things incredibly well – it’s surprisingly thin and light for such a large laptop, and its display is gorgeous. The rest of the package is good enough but not outstanding. And, the price is a little hard to swallow. Then again, you’re paying for a high-res, colour-accurate OLED panel.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lungo, Data: 08/29/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 80% prezzo: 80% prestazioni: 80% mobilità: 70% qualità di lavorazione: 90%
80% Acer Swift Edge 16 (2023) review: Outperforms MacBook Air, but I expected more
Sorgente: Laptop Mag Inglese EN→IT
The Swift Edge 16 has plenty of hits, but has some misses, too. On one hand, the Swift Edge 16 has a striking display with wide DCI-P3 coverage, but it’s color accuracy is off. The Swift Edge 16 has competition-beating performance scores, slapping the 15-inch M2 MacBook Air silly with its impressive processor, graphics, and video-transcoding benchmarks, but it couldn’t keep up on our file-transfer test. It has a great webcam, but its keyboard and speakers are mid. Finally, its 7-hour runtime is a bit of a bummer. If you want some better options among Acer's Swift portfolio, some of my favorites are Acer Swift X and Acer Swift 14. The former also has a 7-hour runtime, but this can be forgiven due to its power-hungry RTX 4050 GPU. The latter has integrated graphics like the Swift Edge 16, but lasts a beautiful 11 hours and 43 minutes. Hallelujah!
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Corto, Data: 08/21/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 80%
First Impressions: Acer Swift Edge 16
Sorgente: Trusted Reviews Inglese EN→IT
The Acer Swift Edge 16 is a very promising laptop. It has a bright and colourful OLED screen, cutting-edge processor with support for Wi-Fi 7 and a remarkably portable design that’s brimming with ports. I do have concerns about the battery life, as such high-end specs often result in short-lived stamina. But with such a reasonable price for the entry-level model, I still have high hopes for this upcoming laptop that could potentially take over the LG Gram 16 as the best portable big-screen laptop.
Hands-On, disponibile online, Corto, Data: 06/01/2023
Review – Acer Swift Edge 16: thin, light, and high-resolution OLED screen
Sorgente: NLT Inglese EN→IT Archive.org version
Yet with such a beautiful, massive screen – I can’t help but think that this laptop can be doubled as an excellent laptop for watching movies and whatnot. For the price of around RM4k depending on what specs you go for – and that’s why I think this laptop is magnificent.
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Medio, Data: 04/16/2018
100% Acer Swift Edge 16 SFE16-43-R2HE Review
Sorgente: Tweakers Olandese NL→IT
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Cortissimo, Data: 12/01/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 100%
80% Test Acer Swift Edge 16 : Un PC ultra léger avec écran OLED option miroir
Sorgente: Charles Tech Francese FR→IT
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lungo, Data: 01/16/2024
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 80% prestazioni: 80% schermo: 90% mobilità: 80% ergonomia: 60%
80% Test Acer Swift Edge 16 : un compromis parfait entre légèreté et grand affichage
Sorgente: Phonandroid Francese FR→IT
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lunghissimo, Data: 11/30/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 80%
80% Test Acer Swift Edge 16 (2023) : un grand PC portable OLED incroyablement léger
Sorgente: CNet France Francese FR→IT
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Corto, Data: 11/26/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 80%
90% Test de l’Acer Swift Edge 16 (2023) : l’équilibre parfait dans un ultrabook
Sorgente: Frandroid Francese FR→IT
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lungo, Data: 10/19/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 90% prestazioni: 100% schermo: 90% mobilità: 80% qualità di lavorazione: 90%
86% Test notebooku Acer Swift Edge. Lepší a levnější než loňský model
Sorgente: Zive CZ→IT
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Medio, Data: 12/04/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 86%
55% Acer Swift Edge 16" (2023)
Sorgente: Tek.no NO→IT
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Lungo, Data: 11/26/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 55%
50% Test: Denne forbløffende kæmpe-bærbar vejer mindre end en Macbook Air
Sorgente: Computer World DK DA→IT
Singola recensione, disponibile online, Cortissimo, Data: 09/07/2023
Valutazione: Punteggio totale: 50%

Commenti

AMD Radeon 780M:

Scheda grafica integrata nelle APU della serie mobile Ryzen 7040 basata sull'architettura RDNA3 con 12 CUs (= 768 shaders) ed una velocità clock fino a 3 GHz.

Ridurre la distanza delle Schede Grafiche per gli utenti che vogliono utilizzare il videogiochi. I nuovi giochi dovrebbero funzionare su queste schede, ma con riduzione dei dettagli e risoluzione mediocre.


>> Ulteriori informazioni le potete trovare nel nostroConfronto delle schede grafiche e nella nostra Lista dei Benchmark.


R7 7840U: Processore mobile di fascia alta a 8 core, basato sull'architettura Zen 4. I core della CPU hanno un clock fino a 5,1 GHz ed eseguono 16 thread contemporaneamente. Integra un XDNA Ai-Engine. Il TDP è configurabile tra 35 e 54 Watt.
>>Ulteriori informazioni le potete trovare nel nostroConfronto dei processori per portatili.


16.00":

15-16 pollici sono uno standard come dimensione del display per portatili ed offrono la più grande varietà di prodotti.


>> Per scoprire come è la risoluzione del vostro schermo, andate a vedere la nostraLista DPI.


1.25 kg:

Questo è il tipico peso dei tablets, piccoli subnotebooks, ultrabooks e convertibili con diagonale del display da 10-11”.


Acer: Nel 1976, l'azienda è stata fondata a Taiwan con il nome Multitech e nel 1987 è stata ribattezzata Acer o Acer Group. La gamma di prodotti comprende, ad esempio, laptop, tablet, smartphone, desktop, monitor, TV e periferiche per computer. Dal 2007, il gruppo si è fuso con Gateway Inc. e Packard Bell, che commercializzano anche le proprie linee di prodotti per laptop.

I computer Acer sono progettati per una varietà di scopi, inclusi ultrabook per uso mobile, laptop da gioco per giocatori, opzioni convenienti per le attività quotidiane e laptop convertibili 2 in 1 per la versatilità. Il portafoglio di prodotti Acer comprende anche tablet che offrono capacità informatiche portatili e multimediali.


79.84%: Il punteggio ottenuto non convince. Bisogna considerare che difficilmente altri portatili hanno ricevuto un punteggio inferiore al 60%. Questo portatile è stato giudicato sotto la media, pertanto non possiamo consigliarne l'acquisto.


>> Ulteriori informazioni le potete trovare nella nostra Guida all'acquisto di un portatile.

 

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